Dear Puranjana Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

More and more MP3 versions of Srila Prabhupada's recordings are being made available on Napster.com. Simply use the Napster software (http://napster.com/win/download/) to search for "prabhupada". Also, more and more MP3 players are becomming available. My favorite computer based MP3 player is Winamp (http://www.winamp.com/). As far as hardware players go, please check out the following:

MP3 BOOMBOX:
http://hardware.dmusic.com/reviews/cdm193/

HEADPHONE MP3 PLAYER:
http://www.dmusic.com/news/news.php?id=2565
http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/pressroom/SV-SD05.htm
http://www.etown.com/news/article.jhtml;$sessionid$BN0KYSAAABBMJTYPVYYCFEY?articleID=3916

DOZENS OF PORTABLE MP3 PLAYERS:
http://hardware.dmusic.com/browse.php?section=Portable+MP3+Players&subsection=CD
http://hardware.mp3.com/hardware/featured/portables/?cp=hw_main

MY ADVICE:
There are plenty of good portable "Diskman" type MP3 players on the market. If you pick one that's highly rated, you'll most likely be very satisfied. As far as the headphone and boombox types go, it's better to wait until more models are available and more reviews have been published. Your servant,

Prabhupadanuga@ziplip.com

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SANNYASA IMBROGLIO

Puranjana Prabhu,
pamho. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! Here is another quote about sannyasa from Srila Prabhupada dated Jan. 5, 1977: "First of all there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience. And at least, we are not going to create new sannyasis. And those who have fallen down, let them marry, live like respectable gentlemen."

[PADA: Ummm very good, respectable v. dis-respectable. Good point.]

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1) CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT

Dear pada, I cannot understand why Sanat and Mukunda have started to endorse Puru and Kirtanananda and Gaudiya Matha? I thought they were not going along with the GBC? Why did they change like this?

ys Bhakta B.W.

[PADA: They have not really "changed," but simply they have revealed their real roots were never with the Prabhupadanugas. Just like Tamal, as soon as Srila Prabhupada departed, he went to the Gaudiya Matha for "an endorsement." So it is a crutch that the GBC and their sympathizer types are using, these so-called "endorsements." Oh see, we are endorsed by Kirtananada's clones and the Gaudiya Matha. Impressive. Of course, nor are Sanat/ Mukunda even going along with the current GBC's official policy, since the GBC has rejected the idea that Kirtanananda is still a guru. Nor does the GBC accept that Puru's Gaudiya Matha pals are gurus or are authorized. So to sum, Sanat/ Mukunda are worse than the GBC, if that is possible.

What they are exposing here is the real reason they are so upset with the gurukuli's lawsuit, they are in league with the current worship of homosexual pedophiles as gurus and Sulochana's murderers, and the Gaudiya Matha's deviants et al. Worse, Sanat/ Mukunda already stated that by citing someone in your newsletters, you are "their endorsing supporter," although pada has a disclaimer that we do not support all of the statements in our newsletters. Worse, Tapapunja is allegedly back in New Vrindavana, and one of our associates in New York says that they now fear this "Mr. Puru" because of his links to his felon criminal guru Kirtanananda, and that this is dangerous. And the ominous revival of felon criminal Tapapunja is not a good sign either.

So, it seems like Sanat/ Mukunda's plan was to first endorse minor league beater bullies, like women beaters, but that did not cause us to run in fear? So now, their big plan is that by endorsing worse bullies, people like pada will now submit to their program? Of course, what their program is no one knows for sure, but submit or else? So, these are all attempted fear inducing tactits, "first, we are aliigned with beaters, and now we are aligned with worse bullies, and now we are aligned with homosexual pedophile gurus who are in jail and we quote their henchmen as our backers," so these are all bully tactics used by the GBC all along. Oh swell. Anyway, several of the ex-youths asked us why these Sanat/ Mukunda are so threatening to them, and now we told them we all know why: they are, according to their own definition of citing someone is their newsletter as "endorsing and supporting," supporting the worship of homosexual pedophiles and murderers, and getting an endorsement from the Gaudiya Matha, as the GBC has done with their "advisors." Chewing the chewed. See below about Puru,

ys pd]

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2) FROM PURU DASA

Dear S------ Prabhu, Greetings. Thank you for your letter, but I don't see rtvk as an answer to anything. Sadhu-sanga makes much more sense to me. I'm simply not interested in changing Krsna Concsiousness into anything other than what we heard from Srila Prabhupada and what was taught by Srila Rupa Gosvami...

YS, Puru Das Adhikari

[PADA: Fine, but Puruji, you are saying that Kirtanananda and some of the Gaudiya Matha deviants who supported Kirtanananda's "acharya-ship" are gurus? And yet you have never explained, "How is it that deviants became gurus"? Srila Prabhupada says that the Gaudiya Matha "gurus" used malicious cheating to become gurus, and violence. GBC ditto. In sum, they did not "become guru" by the process authorized by Rupa Goswami, namely, that one first becomes suddha sattva (completely pure), anyabhilasita sunyam (free from false designations) and so on, and moreover, Srila Prabhupada says one must be a resident of Krishna loka before one can "become" an acharya? Besides, Kirtanananda orchestrated pedophilia, and some of your Gaudiya Matha pals supported him while he was doing that, and now he is in jail. So, how is he a guru, as you claim he is? Thus, we'd say you are the ones who are changing what is taught by Srila Prabhupada and Rupa Goswami by giving "guru" titles to unqualified persons. Srila Prabhupada calls your idea (imitators of pure devotees and acharyas) "the most dangerous elements in human society." No kidding.

Thanks pd]

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3) The Importance of Arguing Logically By Gaurav Mittal

The article of Atma-nivedana Dasa is very nice and correct. We need to understand other's viewpoint. I find that many CHAKRA writers starting attacking the other person instead of arguing logically. Those people who disagreed with Danavir Maharaja started criticizing him instead of arguing with him on the basis of sastra, logic etc. Even from the material perspective, this is not a proper way of discussion. Also, from the spiritual perspective, it constitutes vaishnava aparadha. I think many devotees need to read the book by Dale Carnegie - "How to influence people and win friends" to curb the tendency of criticizing others. -

Gaurav Mittal

[PADA: Good points. So for example, the GBC says they are gurus, fine, but they have never explained logically, how did they become gurus? And how come they are making deviants into gurus, etc.]

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4) THANKS TO HARE KRISHNA YOUTH

Dear PADA pamho agtSP As a young boy, we heard the story of a man who died from fear. Challenged by a friend to enter a graveyard at midnight and hammer a spike into the grave of "Bleeding Edith" (ST. John's cemetery, Sealdah), only slightly inebriated, the man entered the graveyard with hammer and spike on a moonless night and pierced the grave. When he tried to leave, his dhoti was grabbed and pulled from behind. In abject fear, he attempted to flee but was restrained by the knot in his cloth. Deep bleeding wounds revealed where his fingernails had tried to undo the tightened knot in vain. He was found the next morning, a victim of heart failure ...his dhoti had been pegged to the grave by accident. Killed by fear.

Iskcon is also attempting to untie ever tightening knots in its criminal fabric, which could be nailed eternally by poison to a Samadhi in Vrindavan. We can see the blood flowing as (a) one legality after another knots its assets (b) more ghosts than devotees occupy temples and consciousness (c) sannyasis and brahmacaris practice carnality (d) Jayadvita's books are not easy to sell (e) 'gurus' are permitted to give their female disciples more than darsan (f) 'gurus" (like suhotra) are allowed to take walks on the wild side ...let off some steam ...and then pick up where they left off.

Iskcon's shakti has weakened so, that even the newest bhakta correctly interprets 'devotee' to mean 'fund raiser.' Iskcon itself has discarded "Chant and be Happy" for "Chant to deceive." Adverts are appearing in iskcon temple newsletters offering "fund raiser" jobs to anyone interested in ripping off the Indian congregation. Wages are $ 500.00 pw, petrol and mobile phones supplied, the only pre-requisite being "loyalty to iskcon." Actually the only pre-requsite for all departments of iskcon is loyalty. Desperation is now overt where it was once covert.

Recently we received an e-mail from a TP (soon to be gbc ??) who accused us of being prejudiced. "Prejudiced" is defined as: Unreasonable, or unfair dislike (Collins English Dict;). Our TP is an intelligent and soft-hearted person, yet he sits in support of a leadership that has taken iskcon from the threshold of Vaikuntha to the depths of: (1) (what ex-gurukulis say are over 1000 cases of) paedophilia (accepted fact) (2) murder in the first degree (proven fact) (3) Changing HDG's books (eleven hundred changes to Srimad Bhagavad Gita alone) (4) Suicides (linked circumstantially to iskcon leaders) (5) Beatings (6) Bannings (7) Lying, cheating, scamming, hoarding, embezzling, frauding (Iskcon "leaders" went before the deities at Mayapur 2000 festival and promised to give up their "criminal activities," declare their "hidden accounts," and stop screwing their "disciples" for daksine).

Now why does our TP label us "prejudiced" when we say Srila Prabhupada may have been murdered? Is this because we were disloyal to criminals? As one fat bubble-headed JPduta once said (quoting SP) "Iskcon, with all your faults I love you still," and this is supposed to translate as loyalty. When rascal bands began killing people in Papua New Gunea, our loyal cultist grabbed his oversized prasadam plate and jumped the first plane out of there. He did not remember even one of Srila Prabhupada's quotes about dependency on Krsna or the importance of one's service.

Leader means ambitious. Ambition in an entrenched monocratic regime, is a multi-tentacled octopus that devours exemplars and excretes party-line-politicians. Eventually, the ambitious politician sells his soul to the belief that he was born to lead. Anyone who bucks the boss is served an auto-da-fe. More than seventy-five percent of serious crime is attributed to "leaders" who thought they knew it all. What did Tamal call it?..... "The acarya syndrome." After nearly three decades of managerial bullshit, all we can deduce; is iskcon's leaders would rather take the society to hell than hand it back to Srila Prabhupada . Any attempt to alter management in iskcon, is seen as a political coup that needs suppression. Like a society of monkeys, leaders cannot even bare to be looked in the eye. What these puffed up paddy melons can't see is Sri Krsna's plan unfolding in Berkley. Iskcon is flowing rightfully into the hands of its inheritors. For all iskcon's gurudevas', acaryapadas', acaryadevas' etc etc .....no one will give two hoots from a duck's arse twenty years from now. Bogus gurus will need to see a taxidermist if they want to be remembered. Srila Prabhupada ki jaya! Hare Krsna Youth ki jaya!

Dandavats & pranams SGd

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5) CANNOT BE TRUSTED

Dear Puranjana, Here is a letter I just received:

.... I personally do not hold out Tamal will come clean---Tamo guna or Tamal Gunda was always nefarious. Demons like Kamsa could never be trusted on their words of honor.

SB 10.1.35 P The Advent of Lord Krsna: Introduction
Kamsa was driving the chariot and controlling the reins with his left hand, but as soon as he heard the omen that his sister's eighth child would kill him, he gave up the reins, caught hold of his sister's hair, and with his right hand took up a sword to kill her. Before, he had been so affectionate that he was acting as his sister's chariot driver, but as soon as he heard that his self-interest or his life was at risk, he forgot all affection for her and immediately became a great enemy. This is the nature of demons. No one should trust a demon, despite any amount of affection. Aside from this, a king, a politician or a woman cannot be trusted, since they can do anything abominable for their personal interest. Canakya Pandita therefore says, visvaso naiva kartavyah strisu raja-kulesu ca.

KB 1 Advent of Lord Krsna
When Vasudeva was returning home with his first-born child, although he was pleased by the behavior of Kamsa, he could not believe in him because he knew that Kamsa was uncontrolled. An atheistic person cannot be firm in his word of honor. One who cannot control the senses cannot be steady in his determination. The great politician, Canakya Pandita, said, "Never put your trust in a diplomat or in a woman." Those who are addicted to unrestricted sense gratification can never be truthful, nor can they be trusted with any faith.

ys ------- das

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6) MISSING LOTUS PETAL (pada)

When the Prabhupada Centennial sent Lokanatha to Badger to get people involved, he stayed at my house and handed out a leaflet of the centennial's objectives in the shape of a lotus flower. One petal had the title, "resolving contentious philosophy," so I approached the maharaja after his class and told him this is great, we are now going to get an explanation of how homosexuals became vaishnava acharyas, thanks. But the maharaja put his hand over his face and said, "I do not know one way or the other (if this is correct philosophy)." And when I left the room he told everyone that I was an offender for asking such things. So this is a recognized issue, that contentious siddhanta has not been discussed, what to speak of resolved. So we think this is needed, since the basis of everything else is: what is the foundational siddhanta? By the way, when the Centennial reprinted that leaflet, they took off that petal and it disappeared?

Thanks pd

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

NEW SITE: http://members.tripod.com/gurupoison (Tamal indictment)

* http://www.egroups.com/group/Vaisnavacouncil (Visoka cyber istagosthi)
* http://www.govinda.net (first editions of S.P. books)
* http://www.krsna.tv (underground Hare Krishna web site)

*Book For Sale "Someone Has Poisoned Me," You can get it from: New Jaipur Press/ POB 208/ Mayodan NC 27027 $10.00 requested donation

* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* MONTREAL, Canada, Hasti Gopala Dasa (for details write to: hasti90@hotmail.com)

* BERKELEY California. Hare Krishna Youth, 510-389-3346 conducts regular harinam parties, arotikes, cooking classes, college preaching, Prabhupada video nights, and so on.

* NEW YORK "Prabhupada Sankirtana Society" Headquarters 48 Ave. B NY, NY 10009 (212) 674-0680, PSS108@juno.com

01) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive
02) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape

03) Poison tape transcript:
03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
04) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
05) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
06) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
07) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
08) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
09) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
10) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
11) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
12) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
13) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
14) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
14) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
15) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
16) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
17) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
19) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
20) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
20) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
21) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
22) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
23) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
24) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
25) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
26) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
27) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set
28) www.domgbc.org (Direction Of Management)
29) www.acbspn.com/ BOMBAY India
30. www.ROOPA.org (Raghunatha dasa's world economics proposal)

31) http://krsna.kgb.cz/hlavni.htm Prague Czech-devotees (english site)
32) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
33) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)

A WEB SITE DEALING WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN EXPLOITATION:
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/catw/tocv.htm