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1) Satsvarupa Dasa Goswami's "love" interest is "very sick"?
2) PADA's New Series: "PADA DEBATES ROCANA"! (UPDATE PT. 1)
3) Now Time to Take the Narayana Maharaja Bull by the Horns BY: BALAVIDYA
DASA
4) Letter to Giriraja Swami re: Satsvarupa's lover. (PAMHO correspondence
from Nrsimhananda das to HH Giriraja Swami.)
5) Bhakti Caru Swami: Disappearance Day offering to Srila Prabhupada [Why
do we hesitate to tell a new comer who is searching for a guru that Srila
Prabhupada, the best guru the world has ever seen, is still here, and one
can surrender unto him and go back to Godhead very easily? When we have
such a great good fortune, why do we not take full advantage of it? Bhakti
Caru Swami (08-02-07)]
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PADA's new music "Indian Ocean": http://myspace.com/trancelooper
"Someone says that I've been poisoned."
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QrYNDdcBKDg
Poison whispers: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OzyT98NLIUk !
01) Archives of Srila Prabhupada on MP3:
http://www.archive.org/details/Bhaktivedanta-Swami-Prabhupada
02) Prabhupadanugas discussions groups: http://groups.myspace.com/prabhupada
03) About Tripurari swami's son (Bhakti Beaudry)
http://www.harekrsna.org/gbc/black/tripura3.htm
04) Photos of the bogus gurus: http://www.harekrsna.org/guru-photos.htm
05) Preaching in Queens NY:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4494513264869599631&q=prabhupada+ha
re+krishna+center&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
06) Costa Rican revolution against the bogus gurus:
http://golokavrindavan.com/
07) Prabhupada's ritvik order:
http://guru.krishna.org/Articles/2001/01/00233.html
08) Ritviks have "the biggest kitchen in India"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/outlook/news/story/2007/07/0707
18_das_india.shtml
09) Krishna's apprearance video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9SnctUfjs
10) Ramayana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTX63pPI-ag&mode=related&search=
11) Krishna and gopis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbK5PDtRpe8&mode=related&search=
12) Montreal Prabhupadanuga center: www.radhadamodara.net
13) George Harrison Sings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7eFQMakhDE
14) Indradyumna swami and consorts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRV5b3uNxBk&eurl
15) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Prabhupada_Jagat_Guru
16) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InspirationNewsletter
17) PADA archives: http://harekrsna.org
18) http://gitagita.com/en/prabhupada/018.html
19) http://www.prabhupadanugaspress.com
20) Jaya Radha Madhava: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGWVBLxaB14
21) Jaya Radha Madhava by child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJsqsbf7IOA
22) Sita Rama bhole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKFPuxpXdWM
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1) Satsvarupa's love interest is "very sick"?
[PADA: Pranada dasi is SDG's "love" interest, and they were allegedly
caught "naked together." SDG has, according to Nrsinghananda (ITV) been
writing all kinds of love letters to Pranada. Maybe she just cannot "take
the strain" of having a guru who broke up her marriage to Vadiraja, forced
her to marry GBC bogus guru clone head Nagaraja dasa (BTG), and to worship
SDG's child molester guru lineage. And then she was allegedly caught with
her pants down along side "the sum total of the demigods/ Radharani's dear
servant." We'd be sick too! PADA hopes she gets better, and she gets a
better siddhanta!]
Dear supporter of "friends of the BBT",
http://friendsofthebbt.org/newsletter/Aug07.html
"We ask all our friends and supporters to please say a prayer for Pranada
Dasi, co-chair of Friends of the BBT. After many operations
throughout her life, she is now seriously ill with a condition that
includes chronic fatigue and an increased heart rate among many other
worrying symptoms. She will soon be undergoing tests in hopes of diagnosing
her condition.
Pranada has worked with the BBT since 1985. From Back to Godhead magazine
to book distribution to seven years with Gita Nagari Press to her current
positions as BBTI corporate officer and Krishna.com co-manager, Pranada has
always shown incredible enthusiasm and
dedication to Prabhupada's BBT mission. "BBT is my life; it's who I am,"
Pranada says. We all offer our love and prayers to Pranada. May Lord
Krishna keep her healthy and happy so she may continue engaging in His eternal
service."
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1) PADA's New Series: "PADA DEBATES ROCANA"! (UPDATE PT. 1)
PADA NOTE! We are not picking on Rocana personally, he merely represents
the many thousands of "goody-two shoes devotees" who went
along with the bogus GBC gurus, and he gives their arguments. We have had
the same arguments from hundreds or even thousands of like minded folks:
"Oh, most of the gurus are bad, but one of them is pretty good, Narayana
Maharaja supported them but he is a pure person, so the whole thing is
valid because -- one or a few of them are bona fide" -- and so on! Nope!
BY: ROCANA DASA
July 30, CANADA (SUN) - A weekly response to Dandavats editorials.
Today's Obeisances is in response to the recent letter of apology from
Satsvarupa das Goswami, which read: Dear Devotees, Please accept my humble
obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I have come to realize that my
book "Sanitorium" contains explicit
sexual scenes and references. I am sorry I have written it. I apologize and
promise not to write a book like this again. Yours in service to
Prabhupada, Satvarupa das Goswami Interestingly, this apology letter was
submitted to Dandavats with an opening statement from the Euro-GBC. Why it
is that such a communique on Satsvarupa didn't come from the North American
GBC, since Satsvarupa has spent his time in North American for many years
now?]
(*1) APPOINTED GURUS? Why did Rocana and his "team" (Sridhara/ Narayana/
Tripurari/ Gaura Govinda swamis etc.) support the post-1977 bogus
"appointed guru's" project which has promoted Satsvarupa Dasa Goswami (SDG)
as "a diksha guru" in the first place? Rocana is confuting his own
arguments. First of all, (a) Srila Prabhupada says "gurus are not appointed
-- as they were in the Gaudiya Matha" (defeats Rocana's team from square
one). (b) Rocana refuses to answer our original 1978 question, "What
capacity were they (SDG) apppointed as, since all the written and legal
evidence says: they were only appointed as priests (ritviks)." (c) Rocana
simultaneously says to us he "does not know what capacity they were
appointed as, because it is not clear (which is what Rocana's team's actual
guru -- SDG -- says)." (d) Simultaneously Rocana says, one thing is clear
"they are gurus" (again citing his authority: SDG). Simultaneously Rocana
says (e) "Satsvarupa never was a guru."
Rocana is all over the map here, probably so no one can pin down his actual
point. Or does he even know what his actual point is since no one else can
figure it out? Rocana's team complains against our guru, Srila Prabhupada,
saying that he issues defective instructions by his apppointing ersatz
gurus. Never mind that Srila Prabhupada said, about five thousand times,
that after he departs there will be ONLY "officiating" devotees, brahmanas,
agents, representatives, Governing Body, priests (ritviks), but not gurus.
Apparently Rocana's team never took the time to read the related citations
from Srila Prabhupada. Meanwhile, (f) while admitting they "do not know"
(because they never reads PADA where we cite Srila Prabhupada) they
pontificates on this topic endlessly? Then (g) Rocana's team is giving the
impression that Srila Prabhupada -- has -- appointed DEFECTIVE souls as
gurus like SDG or else "Srila Prabhupada would not be in the tradition."
Yet Rocana never explains -- which previous acharyas in our tradition --
were defective, or appointed, or voted in, or zonal, or fallen, or writing
sex novels, ... or so on -- ad infinitum?
At least now we know why the children of ISKCON were confused into thinking
"Srila Prabhupada wanted you to worship deviants and molesters as your
gurus," this has been Rocana's team's mantra. Rocana gives mutually
exclusive and contrary versions of his idea simultaneously, while never
citing Srila Prabhupada's actual orders. With all this diametrically
opposed confusion, no wonder Rocana's "gurus," and no small amount of their
followers, require therapy and percodan medications. Then Rocana wonders
why his wonderful "appointed diksha gurus" are falling into illicit sex?
Sometimes a light bulb goes off and he says, they NEVER were gurus, but
then he says, they were not appointed as anything other than gurus (because
Srila Prabhupada is defective)?
This means Rocana is attacking Srila Prabhupada as being "mistaken" because
he "appointed conditioned souls as his diksha guru successors." Maybe the
answer to all this is: (f) Rocana's team "appointed" all these bogus diksha
gurus themselves and changed the "officiator" designation by concoction and
speculation (as occured in the Gaudiya Matha). And then Rocana's bogus
gurus followed Sridhara Maharaja's Vatican style guru voting system, and
they voted in more gurus like Bhakti Marga to try to cover up the tracks of
their first mistake, -- and yet now that the manure is hitting the fan
blades -- they are trying to blame Srila Prabhupada for ALL the above,
actually -- their own "mistakes."
(*2) VOTED IN GURUS? How was Rocana's "good friend and best pal" Bhakti
Marga Swami "voted in" as SDG's contempory and "current co-guru"? Srila
Prabhupada says that the guru is not established by a system of "mundane
votes" (defeats Rocana again from square one). More of Rocana's
contradictions: (a) SDG is the person who established the "guru by vote
system." (b) Rocana says SDG is bogus -- and so is his "guru by vote"
system. Yet, (c) Bhakti Marga is a diksha guru, despite being voted in by
SDG's bogus system? Rocana has defeated himself, actually chasing his own
tail -- again. And Rocana's team never explains their "guru by vote
system," if two-thirds vote for Bhakti Marga, and one third says he is a
deviant, how come he is still "a guru" if one-third says -- he is a
deviant. And have not Rocana's guru "voters" made all kinds of other "guru
voting mistakes" already, such as voting in deviants as their gurus? Rocana
cannot begin to explain one word of any of his contrary ideas here, or show
where any of his concoctions are in "the tradition" -- hence he refuses to
debate with PADA. And how can the voters and re-instators of pedophile
gurus -- vote in -- any bona fide person, at all? Rocana never answers for
20 years, no wonder, his team cannot debate a ball of sweater fuzz.
(*3) WORSHIP "NO LONGER PRACTICAL"? In 1978 Tamal Krishna said "now that
Srila Prabhupada has departed, his worship is no longer practical, you need
to worship a living person (like Tamal!)." This is also what Rocana's team
says every day. Why has Rocana's team accepted the philosophy of the king
kin of all the post 1978 deviations as a guru? When did Srila Prabhupada
say that worship of the acharyas is "no longer practical"? Srila Prabhupada
says that this Rocana / Gaudiya Matha "living guru" idea is bogus, the guru
is eternal.
(*4) CHURCH OF RITVIK? Srila Prabhupada says that the guru is always living
ETERNALLY. Rocana is a doubting Thomas, he calls the guru "post-samadhi /
posthumous" (citing SDG's team again). The Rocana team says that our idea
of worship of Srila Prabhupada is "the posthumous church conception." Yet
Srila Prabhupada says that even today people can worship a "departed" guru
like Jesus through a priest (ritvik) and this is bona fide. Rocana also
told PADA that he agrees with Srila Prabhupada's statment that "Jesus can
still take the sins of his followers even though 2,000 years has passed."
Hence Rocana says that the ritvik system is bona fide, but then behind ours
(and Srila Prabhupada's!) back he changes his mind. Why is Rocana claiming
that the worship of the acharyas is some posthumous "church conception" --
when Rocana's "Vatican voting tradition" has voted in criminals and
pedophiles as their Popes and messiahs of their religion? At least in our
Prabhupadanuga "church" -- we are worshiping a bona fide pure devotee and
not odious deviants who appear all the time in Rocana's "tradition"!
(*5) REFUSED CHALLENGE? Rocana asserted in 1978 that Satsvarupa Dasa
Goswami was one of eleven ISKCON "appointed diksha gurus," yet Rocana has
never established that this was "the order of Srila Prabhupada." Moreover,
when we offered a $108,000 reward to Rocana, or anyone else who could prove
the claim that "eleven gurus were appointed," Rocana's refused to accept
the challenge (and has ever since). Rocana's team says they were never
defeated by us, but in 1993 they was unable to come up with even one
sentence to defend their appointed / voted in guru process and collect the
reward. Actually, no one else ever came forward to accept the reward either.
(*6) CUT AND PASTE. Rocana was also sent Yasodanandana's paper "The
Tradition Of Debate," which Rocana claims to have "defeated." Meanwhile
Rocana says that his friends are "voted in as diksha gurus" (by the
recoronators of homosexual pedophile gurus). Rocana's team claims their
child molester messiah's project is "the tradition." No, Rocana has never
proved that this is the tradition. Rather the opposite is always true in
the tradition, none of the bona fide acharyas are ever voted in, especially
by deviants, period. Notice also that Rocana only post parts of
Yasodanandana's "Tradition Of Debate" paper on his web site and not the
full text, because the full text defeats Rocana, and Rocana's team is
famous for concocting, mis-citing and chopping up our statements as well.
Cutting and pasting is not the way to win arguments.
(*7) GAUDIYA MATHA? Moreover, Satsvarupa Dasa Goswami established in 1978
that we need to "consult with the Gaudiya Matha's Sridhara Maharaja," a
plan which Rocana endorsed. Sridhara Maharaja is the person who concocted
the guru voting system which Rocana still endorses in the present year of
2007. Yet Srila Prabhupada says we should NOT consult with the Gaudiya
Matha, and he said that many times. Rocana still places the writings of all
kinds of Gaudiya Matha "gurus" and their supporters on his web site with no
explanation from him that their ideas are apa-siddhanta -- according to
Srila Prabhupada. Nor does Rocana explain how any of these folks became
"gurus" either? Srila Prabhupada says "amongst my God brothers, no one is
qualified to be acharya." If Srila Prabhupada's God brothers are not
qualified, how did all these other folks become gurus? Rocana cannot
explain anything here, he is baffled.
Worse, Sridhara Maharaja said that Rocana's gurus will "dig their own
graves" (and most of the children will get molested thereby) so what who
cares? And Tripurari swami supported this process, thus he always gets free
advertising from Rocana while we never do. Reason Rocana never explains why
he supported letting the ISKCON children "go into the grave" that his
policy created: he cannot. Instead, Rocana endorses their bogus voted in
guru process, by asserting that people are being voted as gurus -- a
process which is condemned by Srila Prabhupada.
Worse, Rocana's other former best friend was Kundali and he was also a
fully surrendered Gaudiya Matha follower who constantly criticized Srila
Prahbupada's "jiva tattva" (as many Gaudiya Matha "gurus" are doing). So
Rocana's team are not only tossing the ISKCON children into the grave, they
are tossing Srila Prabhupada into the grave because he is now "posthumous,"
and now Rocana's team is tossing Srila Prabhuapda's siddhanta into the
grave. Yet Rocana's team has never explained how they were ever authorized
to toss ISKCON and its children "into the grave"?
Kundali (and Sridhara/ Narayana/ Tripurari/ Gaura Govinda maharajas) all
say "we originate in the impersonal brahman," whereas Srila Prabhupada says
"we originate in Krishna's lila or sport." Why is Rocana promoting the
Gaudiya Matha's statements which contradict Srila Prabhupada's? Srila
Prabhupada says beware, many of my God brothers are contaminated by
Mayavada philosophy (they think the jiva comes from brahman) and Rocana is
simply another example of this contamination by his constant foisting of
folks like Kundali's posts and other Gaudiya Matha clones upon us. This is
another issue Rocana has never cleared up, why is he promoting the bogus
siddhanta of the mayavadis? Rocana is stumped and baffled once again. But
what do you expect from people who toss ISKCON and its children into the
grave and they are proud of that?
(*8) IMPURE VOTE IN PURE? Without Rocana's proving his first false
assumption that SDG is a "living messiah" for ISKCON, Rocana has pushed
forward more waves of "diksha gurus" with his assertions that Bhakti Marga
and others are among the next wave of new "diksha gurus." Before proving
that his first wave of eleven counterfeit gurus was valid, Rocana is now
printing hundreds of more counterfeit gurus? Yet Rocana's team never
replies, if their first wave of gurus is bogus, as Rocana now admits, then
how could these bogus people (the first wave) then -- "vote in" -- the next
wave of "the pure"? Srila Prabhupada says that contaminated people have no
jurustiction over the acharyas (with their vote system). Rocana has never
explained this since 1984 despite our asking him about five hundred times.
He is bewildered by Tamal's Gaudiya Matha siddhanta.
(*9) ROCANA ENDORSES SDG's WRITINGS? We all know that the only reason
Bhakti Marga is a guru is because he endorses SDG's bogus "position paper"
writings and siddhanta since 1978. Why does Rocana claim that a person who
endorses SDG's bogus writings is "a diksha guru"? Indeed Bhakti Marga is
"voted in" to SDG's "sex novel" guru lineage? Rocana never explains why he
thinks that the supporters of sex novel gurus can "vote in another wave of
pure devotee diksha gurus." Rocana says he does not support SDG's writing
but his gurus -- do so? (Rocana often argues with his own shadow and so he
defeats himself).
(*10) KILL GURU? The pattern is that Rocana's first wave of bogus gurus
(such as SDG) is crashing on the beach -- fine -- since at least Rocana
admits his first wave is bogus, but now Rocana is making wave after wave of
more gurus, before explaining how he was authorized to set off the first
wave. And now members of his second wave are crashing. Srila Prabhupada
sardonically summarizes Rocana's plan -- As soon as it was announced that
guru maharaja has departed, I become guru, and then another man comes to
become guru, then another, and another, and in this way, I kill my guru and
I shall become guru. Why does Rocana support his "kill guru by making false
gurus" process?
In other words, Srila Prabhupada sardonically sums up that Rocana's whole
"wave after wave of guru" system as "kill guru and become guru." Why does
Rocana endorse this "kill guru" process? Rocana says Srila Prabhupada
cannot be the guru because he is posthumous -- dead and gone. And to
worship a "posthumous guru" is "not in the tradition," i.e. Rocana's
traditon is that the vaishnava gurus are all "dead." Rocana's team has also
"killed gurus" like Jesus by saying his worship is "bogus church conception."
Srila Prabhupada say this is extremely offensive, to say the guru is dead
when he is -- eternal. Notice that Rocana cites his pal Ravindra Swarupa
who refers to Srila Prabhupada as "the post mortem guru, and his worship is
church idea." Rocana like to use the same terms as his fellow "reformers."
Ravindra Swarupa said, "Write a letter to Srila Prabhupada and see if he
replies." This is what the atheists say, "Write a letter to God and see if
he replies." Why does Rocana's team endorse this atheistic ideology?
(*11) HEADLESS SOCIETY? Srila Prabhupada says, "Make a Governing Body, AND
not false gurus." Rocana says, "Wrong, Srila Prabhupada's governing and
managing scheme is not in the tradition." How then will ISKCON be managed
if "there is no such thing as a system of managing in the tradition"? Is
Rocana's tradition -- kill guru and become guru? And if ISKCON is not
managed, will this not create a lawless cult where there are beatings, mass
child molesting and murder, as has occurs under Rocana's scheme? When did
Srila Prabhupada tell Rocana to dismantle the Governing Body process and
make wave after wave of false gurus: "kill guru and become guru"? Why has
Rocana -- and so many of his contemporaries -- claimed that SDG, Bhakti
Marga and many others (over 200 "gurus" have been voted in since 1977) are
"diksha gurus"? And why is it that under Rocana's plan, there is wave after
wave of scandals and crimes -- and no managing to check these criminal
actions?
(*12) RUBBER STAMP GURU? When did Srila Prabhupada tell Rocana to grab a
guru rubber stamp and first stamp eleven "gurus", and then make "a guru
reform" and rubber stamp hundreds of more gurus? Rocana never tells us?
Srila Prabhupada says Rocana's guru by rubber stamp process is: bogus.
(*13) ROCANA JOINS CONSPIRACY? Folks like Rocana and SDG unitedly and
boldly declared to the whole ISKCON movement in 1978 that eleven of their
leaders had been: appointed (or chosen) as diksha gurus, Srila Prabhupada's
successors, the annointed ones, the eleven pure devotees, Vishnupada, and
so on. And then their (bogus) claim was supported by: Sridhara Maharaja/
Narayana Maharaja/ Gaura Govinda Maharaja/ Tripurari swami/ ... in addition
to cheer leaders like Rocana/ Bhagavata dasa/ Nrsighananda (ITV) and many
thousands of others who have unauthorizedly supported this claim. Srila
Prabhupada says his leaders might be engaged in "a conspiracy," to control
his properties (and they might poison him to take over the property) and
Rocana has endorsed this process. By what authority?
(*14) NOT FIT? Srila Prabhupada said that NONE of his followers are even
fit for sannyasa in January 1977, how did they become gurus -- just a few
months later? Rocana never explains.
(*15) ACTUAL DESIGNATION? Rocana now admits that SDG "never was a guru," so
what designation was SDG given? Rocana never tells us. The only recorded
designation (as we have documented) is that people like SDG were designated
as "Governing Body" and "officiating priests," but Rocana says that is
wrong because Srila Prabhupada would be violating "the tradition" if he had
only ordered a process of administration. These folks never explain what
designation SDG was actually given. And since there is not going to be any
administration, that is not in the tradition, then all of the children are
subject to getting molested, as occurs under Rocana's team's plan
(*16) APPOINTMENT DISCREDITED? Worse, in 1980 Tamal and Hansadutta declared
to the assembled devotees including Jayadvaita, that Srila Prabhupada had
never even desginated (appointed) ANY gurus, at Nrsinghananda's hideout in
Topanga California. Some of the other eleven have admitted this too, so
where is Rocana's claim that there are ANY "diksha gurus" after 1977? And
if SDG was never a diksha guru, how were any of SDG's contemporaries diksha
gurus?
(*17) LAYERS OF CONCOCTIONS? And then Rocana's false gurus created layers
upon layers of other concoctions: zonal gurus, falling down gurus, LSD
gurus, machine gun gurus, voted in gurus, re-initiations, and endless reams
of concoctions, often supported by the "position papers" penned by SDG. And
Rocana suported their enterprise and he still thinks SDG's "guru reform"
can rubber stamp Rocana's next wave of "gurus" like Bhakti Marga. Rocana
rejects pieces of SDG's papers, while keeping other pieces. In short,
Rocana fails to tell us which parts of SDG's papers he rejects and which
parts he accepts, since he still accepts that SDG's "guru reform" created
gurus such as Bhakti Marga, and that SDG is correct to say he was never
designated as an officiator.
(*18) "CAUSE" OF TROUBLES? Rocana's team also fails to explain "the cause"
of SDG's "problems," bogus writings and so on: shastra tells us when an
unqualified person imitates the pure devotee he WILL eventually become
degraded "...If one imitates the maha-bhagavata, evetually he will become
degraded" (NOI).
(*19) PILLARS OF ILLUSION? Thus, by Rocana's promoting SDG as a diksha guru
in the first place, it now becomes clear that Rocana is a key pillar
instrument in creating the current "bogus sex literature" "child molester
guru" et al. imbroglio. Similarly, Nrsinghananda (ITV) also says nowadays
that SDG was never a guru, and SDG is an embarrassment to ISKCON etc., yet
he too was working with Rocana in promoting SDG as a guru -- through his
position as ISKCON's "media chief." Credit has to be given here, some of
the Sridhara Maharaja/ Narayana Maharaja/ Gaura Govinda Maharaja/ Tripurari
swami/ Rocana/ Bhagavata dasa/ Nrsighananda (ITV) camps are now finally
agreeing with PADA: that they have been promoting false gurus, although it
has taken them sometimes 30 years to figure this out. If they were wrong to
support false gurus, what was the actual order then? They never tell us?
(*20) SUCCESSOR NOT MENTIONED. At the same time, almost all of the above
folks seem reluctant to admit that they were duped because the actual order
is: there is only supposed to be a Governing Body, there is no mention of
ANY "successor diksha gurus."
Srila Prabhupada says in the Gaudiya Matha no successor was mentioned.
Rocana, Kundali, Jayadvaita, SDG, they all say "Forget about working under
the banner of worship of Srila Prabhupada, that is the ritvik deviation,
you need to go find another guru to worship, a 'living guru,' and if you
cannot find one in ISKCON, go to the Gaudiya Matha or other camps." How can
any institution be managed if everyone is told to stop worshiping the
founder and to worship someone else, anyone except the founder? No wonder
Rocana's team thinks we are "the bogus Church. The Church worships one
acharya and that maintains the integrity of the institution, whereas with
Rocana's team they want a Gaudiya Matha schism system of, as Rocana's
shiksha guru Badrinarayna says: "multi gurus."
(*21) SUPPRESSED DOCUMENTS. Rocana's team of bogus gurus also suppressed
documents, suppressed devotees who protested, and apparently they
suppressed Srila Prabhupada with poison. What does Rocana's this so-called
process of "diksha gurus" have to do with "the tradition," this sounds like
a criminal take over?
(*22} "LIVING GURU." Worse, Rocana keeps sending people off on a mad search
to find "another" diksha guru, any guru other than Srila Prabhupada, while
claming to be dedicated to Srila Prabhupada. Let's face it, Rocana
vociferously resents to see Srila Prabhupada actually focused as the actual
guru, just like his pals Kundali and Kailash Chandra et al. Hence as soon
as we say: "Let's worship Srila Prabhupada," Rocana and the above mentioned
deviants becomes angry as a hornet's nest. Rocana comes out to beat on us
with shoes, "You are the bogus church people, you are not in the tradition,
you have to worship our homosexual or criminal priests that I am rubber
stamping as messiahs." Where does Srila Prabhupada authorize Rocana's team
to rubber stamp gurus? He never does.
(*23) RESULTS? OK Rocana fine, ISKCON ALREADY followed your process.
Rocana! Now we see the results of your idea: most of the kids were
molested? Maybe Rocana is not the prime cause of this, but he is not far
behind the prime movers. Rocana and his ilk are not the Frankenstein
monsters, that is good, but they worked in the laboratory that created
these Frankenstein monster gurus. And they are still hard at work rubber
stamping more and more and more and more of their concocted gurus.
Notice: we still have to accept "a diksha guru" from the midst of the
Sridhara Maharaja/ Narayana Maharaja/ Gaura Govinda Maharaja/ Tripurari
swami/ Rocana/ Bhagavata dasa/ Nrsighananda (ITV) bogus guru enterprise.
Instead of "at least maintaining what we have," i.e. Srila Prabhupada's
worship, these fellows have been sending people on a wild goose chase to
find another guru, maybe it is SDG, maybe it is Bhakti Marga, maybe it is
the Gaudiya Matha, but you can only select from within their homosexual
guru's cult, and worship of his divine grace is "the bogus Church idea."
Then they wonder why ISKCON is a ghost town? Because only the ghosts
worship their "Jesus is posthumous"/ child molester/ guru by votes system.
MORE LATER!
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3) Now Time to Take the Narayana Maharaja Bull by the Horns BY: BALAVIDYA
DASA
In view of the continued and recent postings on the Sampradaya Sun, we feel
it is now time to take the Narayana Maharaja bull by the horns. One is
enjoined to be tolerant and forgiving of the foolish and ignorant, but when
one hears so much denigration of such a great acarya as Srila Prabhupada,
then one can tolerate only so much. To remain silent would be party to the
rascaldom and foolishness, and ultimately one would be contaminated. Yes,
these are fools and rascals who think that by their mental speculation they
can divine the consciousness of a great maha-bhagavata. And in their
undiluted arrogance, they present their pure nonsense as wondrous
conclusions and insights, hoping to impress us all with their brilliance.
But the only result of their tomfoolery is that they become condemned in
the society of the wise.
The case in point is the recent discussion about Srila Prabhupada's
knowledge of the misbehavior towards the gurukula students. We have seen
voluminous, unfocused, sastrically-inaccurate, and speculative
presentations by one personality, and the end result of his nonsense is
that Srila Prabhupada knew of the rampant child-abuse in the gurukula and
did nothing about it. To assert this is simply blasphemy. But the illogical
rambling presentations of this person are simply built upon the nonsense
conclusions of Narayana Maharaja. In trying to validate such nonsense, we
see him ready to use any kind of word-jugglery. Yet, he is only proving
that his association for "higher-instruction" with Narayana Maharaja has
simply taken him away from humble and chaste adherence to Srila Prabhupada.
Those that served in close association with Srila Prabhupada for many years
know that his overriding and deepest concern was undoubtedly for the
welfare of all those souls who had taken shelter of him. He was/is our
loving spiritual father, our "ever well-wisher". His heart was an ocean of
unlimited love and compassion, and even our tiny efforts at service he took
as a great treasure. When he arrived in the temple, we would see tears in
his eyes. His greatest joy, we knew, was for him to see us and smile. Even
when we were chastised, we knew his love was there.
For anyone to assert that this embodiment of transcendental love and
unbreakable morality knew about child-abuse and let it go on unchecked is
an idea of such idiocy that one becomes almost speechless. And to support
this idiocy with nonsense lies and word-jugglery, only serves to compound
the offense. And from where is this blasphemy coming: the camp of Narayana
Maharaja, and more accurately, its leader.
We also hear from the same leader that one needs a "living guru". Has one
ever read in any authoritative scripture that there is such a thing as a
'dead guru'? Every ISKCON devotee for years at every disappearance day
festival in the temple has heard the refrain of Srila Bhaktivinoda: "He
reasons ill who says that Vaisnava die, when thou art living still in
sound". And did not Srila Prabhupada firmly declare "I will live for ever
in my books"? Such basic tenets of Vaisnava philosophy are forgotten in the
camp of Narayana Maharaja; they are told and obediently parrot: "You need a
living guru". The blasphemy here is that Srila Prabhupada is a "dead guru"
along with, by implication, ever other acarya and devotee in our line. What
stupidity, what rascaldom.
Of course, the machination here is to separate Srila Prabhupada's disciples
from Srila Prabhupada and thus make them more compliant and dependent.
Srila Prabhupada is put in the category of being a now defunct 'historical
figure' and is therefore less relevant than the "living guru" before them,
namely Narayana Maharaja. But to cover this blasphemy, Narayana Maharaja
then pompously pretends to himself and others that he will give the real
insight into "Who Srila Prabhupada is". He will present the spiritual form
and identity of Srila Prabhupada, and with his "higher teachings" take us
to Srila Prabhupada in the spiritual world. Further, implying that Srila
Prabhupada cannot take us to himself. A flickering candle now thinks he can
reveal the Sun. What unmitigated hubris and humbug.
And what of these "higher teachings". Is there anything higher than
faithful and chaste adherence to one's one spiritual master, particularly
after his departure? The Srimad-Bhagavatam enjoins us to lament for the
departure of the spiritual master like a chaste wife for the loss of her
husband. One should not become a prostitute ready to relate to envious
persons who denigrate one's own swami. The "higher teachings" of the camp
of Narayana Maharaja are composed of, amongst other things:
(1) The meditation upon imagined spiritual forms by neophytes.
(2) The presentation and discussion of the intimate affairs of Radha-Krsna
in an open and public forum peopled with non-devotees and neophytes.
(3) Somehow or other, book distribution is service to Maha-Visnu; whatever
that is supposed to mean.
(4) In Kali-yuga there are no lila-avataras. No Kali-avatara at the end of
Kali-yuga. This must mean that Lord Buddha did not appear and the
Srimad-Bhagavatam is faulty.
(5) Initiation is cheapened. One is given a name but more than likely
receives no instruction in the four regulative principles and no commitment
to sixteen rounds a day.
(6) In numerous cases, such 'initiation' is given to minors against the
expressed wishes and promises given to the Vaisnava parents.
(7) One needs a 'higher-bhava' name to aid in achieving Krsna-prema. Thus
implying that the names given by Srila Prabhupada are deficient. (What then
about the Vaikuntha name "Narayana"?)
(8) We are all offensive because we all have not surrendered to Narayana
Maharaja.
(9) We are repeatedly assailed by the assertion that Narayana Maharaja is
an uttama-adhikari, an uttama-adhikari, an uttama-adhikari…. Apparently, by
such repeated assertion, we must conclude that it is a fact that is easily
missed...
(10) Narayana Maharaja is now giving "higher teachings" than Srila
Prabhupada. Thus Srila Prabhupada prepared the way for Narayana Maharaja.
(11) Narayana Maharaja is necessary.
One could go on, but what is the point. The teachings and mood of this
proposed "siksa-disciple" of Srila Prabhupada bear no actual resemblance to
the teachings of Srila Bhaktivinoda, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada and
Srila Prabhupada. He is a siksa-disciple who rarely was seen anywhere near
Srila Prabhupada during the twelve years prior to 1977. What to speak of
ever being seen in the role of a surrendered siksa-disciple. Yet this is
the propaganda we are constantly assailed with from his camp. Do they
really think that we buy into this idea just because they repeat it
constantly as their mantra. Time to wake up.
B.V. Narayana Maharaja, Tamal Krishna Goswami and Giriraj Swami. Actually,
famously, Narayana Maharaja made the declaration a number years back in
1990's at the time of his Mathura gopi-bhava club that he was going "to
rebuild ISKCON on the rock of Giriraja (Swami) using the wood of Tamal
(Krsna Goswami)". At the time his influence was causing great disturbance
in the Vrndavana Krsna-Balarama Temple and, quite rightly, the GBC had to
step in. The circle of his adherents rejected his instruction and came back
to ISKCON properly chastened. Seeing his plan to be the acarya of ISKCON
thwarted, this infuriated Narayana Maharaja and since then he has been on a
campaign of revenge against ISKCON. Regularly over the years, in pursuit of
this agenda, his followers have transgressed all Vaisnava etiquette and
attacked various temples and festivals of ISKCON. They buttonhole ISKCON
members, hand out nonsense flyers, create contention and disturbance, and
generally act like a rash of boils. Pleased with such behavior, they then
return to their places and recount how they are perfectly situated and
everyone in ISKCON is offensive because they don't accept their
uttama-adhikari guru and his sublime instructions.
Well, the time for such self-delusion is over. We would hope that all the
naive followers of Narayana Maharaja would realize just what they are
involved in as they travel around in a big cultish group with him, trying
to create the impression that he has a great following. Actually as they
believe in the "living guru", they should now consider who their next
"living guru" will be.
Perhaps they will even return to the Sri Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya
and realize that all the acaryas in that line have been completely alive
and conscious all the time that they have been wandering about in a foolish
illusion that has been deliberately cast upon them. We hope this is found
helpful, Your servant, Balavidya dasa
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4) Letter to Giriraja Swami re: Satsvarupa
PAMHO correspondence from Nrsimhananda das to HH Giriraja Swami.
Note: HH Giriraja Swami wrote to me that he did not know about the
controversy swirling around Satsvarupa.
Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN)" wrote:
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:38 -0400
From: "Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN)"
Subject: letter to Giriraja Swami re Satsvarupa
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Letter PAMHO:13865071 (80 lines)
From: Nrsimhananda (das) ACBSP (ITV Los Angeles - USA)
Date: 18-Jul-07 15:28 (08:28 -0700)
To: Bhanu Swami (Madras - IN) [94400]
(received: 19-Jul-07 01:43)
To: Jayadvaita Swami [66717]
To: Romapada Swami [143303] (received: 18-Jul-07 17:01)
Cc: AC Bhaktivaibhava Swami [31566]
Cc: Bhakti Charu Swami [69070]
Cc: Bhakti Purusottama Swami (Mayapur - IN) [54042]
Cc: Devamrita Swami [30502] (received: 19-Jul-07 01:36)
Cc: Lokanath Swami [39627]
Cc: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) [87216] (received: 18-Jul-07 16:56)
Cc: Bhima (das) ACBSP (BBT India, Juhu, Mumbai - IN) [42938]
(sender: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN))
Cc: Jasomatinandan (das) ACBSP (Gujarat - IN) [14677] (sender: Basu Ghosh
(das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN))
Cc: "Jalandhar Bidye"
Cc: Krsna Nama (das) MVS (Watford/London - UK) [586]
Cc-For: Mahavishnu Swami (ACBSP) (UK/Africa/India/Nepal)
Comment: Text PAMHO:13875656 by Bhakti Charu Swami
Internet: "David Shapiro"
Attached: 13865071.eml (12905 bytes) "Original mail file of Text 13865071"
Subject: letter to Giriraja Swami re Satsvarupa
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Dear Maharaja,
PAMHO AGTSP
I'll be as concise as possible with the assumption that you are not in the
loop of Satsvarupa's deviations for the past twenty years.
1) His relationship (or shall we call it obsession) with Nagaraja's wife,
Pranada, included a proposal to her that she stay in Ireland with him but
in a separate dwelling so that they could continue seeing each other
regularly while he kept up the veneer of a sanyassi/guru - and we're not
talking about a "working" relationship. Countless letters written to her
over the years were found by his disciples, and one of his disciples ended
up with severe mental distress because of his angst over loyalty to his
spiritual master and revealing the truth. Praghosa knows all the sordid
details though he was not my source for them.
2) Satsvarupa wrote Sanatorium five years ago, his disciples and publishers
at Gita Nagari Press pleaded with him not to publish it. From my
understanding, the staff nearly closed the Press over the issue. The
apology was too little, too late. The mentality has been going on for over
two decades.
[*novel "Sanatorium" by Satsvarupa das Goswami Gita Nagari Press, 2005 Page
360, 361, 420*................................
* SDG>"Bold as she was, she placed his hands on her breasts. She then
kissed him and placed her tongue in his mouth. His tongue also entered
hers. She embreaced him and by now he had a half
erection...................... Braja dasa sat down and calmed his
genitals............... He did'nt want to stick his genital into some well
formed beauty star. He wanted Sandy. And he had heard from a Godbrother who
worked as a physical therapist that a man could even have sexual
intercourse with a parapllegic.................. I'ts not just a sticking
in of a penis into a vagina. It's the being together in the touching and
the embracing that lead up to the mechanics and the orgasm"
SDG>"Most of all I acknowledge my spiritual master, His Divine Grace A.C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada................. I pray that Sanatorium
pleases him and that he blesses it to be widely read around the globe."
*[b]Sanatorium by Satsvarupa das Goswami Gita Nagari Press, 2005
Praghosa (dandavats.com) received many letters regarding Satsvarupa
apology, but he chose to end the comment trail rather than publish them.
Devotees such as myself don't want an Iskcon society that shows its
"compassion" and "mercy" to one godbrother at the expense of so many others
and disciples. To us, Satsvarupa is not qualified to take one soul back to
Godhead, yet Iskcon has him as an "official" guru who commands respect
wherever he goes. Why? Because people don't know the truth. They are denied
the details. They are acting out of ignorance, and that ignorance is born
out of a sentimental idea that such a dear disciple to Srila Prabhupada is
best saved by protecting him from the consequences of his actions. This
will backfire. Iskcon will again suffer due to its leadership protecting
one of its own at the expense of the spiritual lives of everyone else. You
have no idea of the distress that Sastavrupa has caused to the woman and
her husband what to speak of countless others who feel powerless to do
anything about it. Just try to grasp the anxiety and tribulation that he
caused and continues to cause to others. Our godsister nearly lost her life
over it. And for what? So that he doesn't lose his ashram, his saffron, his
danda, his service? He can write as many novels as he wants, but not as a
representative of the Iskcon standard for renounced life. No one is denying
him his freedom of expression. He just should be honest about being honest.
My letters re this issue to Badrinarayan prabhu were copied by him to HH R
omapada, Hh Jayadwaita, HH Bhanu, and HG Annutama. There is an eerie
silence about Satsvarupa, but it is the calm before the storm. If an Iskcon
sanyassi guru can act with such impunity, then it cheapens the entire
meaning of such a position in the institution. Who will suffer? Our
children, my children, and certainly trust and faith in the leadership. My
voice speaks for many who are too afraid of "apardha" or not being
considered one of the "good ole boys." Satsvarupa takes service from his
disciples in the name of Iskcon - money, resisdence, medical care -
everything. He needs to get a dose of reality, take responsibility for his
choices, and learn how to support himself while being a devotee.
Vanaprastha would be a suitable ashram. He could show his sincerity by
accepting the results of his actions and really exhibit real humility - not
the kind that costs nothing.
I hope you are well and blissful in KC.
YS, Nrsimhananda das
(Text PAMHO:13865071)
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5) BHAKTI CARU: Disappearance Day offering to Srila Prabhupada [Why do we
hesitate to tell a new comer who is searching for a guru that Srila
Prabhupada, the best guru the world has ever seen, is still here, and one
can surrender unto him and go back to Godhead very easily? When we have
such a great good fortune, why do we not take full advantage of it? Bhakti
Caru Swami (08-02-07)]
...Prabhupada did not say anything and then in a very soft voice he told
me, "Didn't I teach you that the spirit soul is eternal and he never dies?"
That one statement gave me a profound realization: how could the person who
taught me that the spirit soul never dies ever die himself? He will always
be with us, although some day he may disappear from our mundane vision.
But today, when I look back, I can see that soon after Srila Prabhupada's
disappearance we took it for granted that Srila Prabhupada is not here any
more - like any other mortal, as he left his body, he is no more. I very
strongly feel that this is the greatest mistake we have made. And as a
result, ISKCON today is in such a critical condition. Now that we assembled
here to celebrate Srila Prabhupada's disappearance pastime, once and for
all let us recognize that Srila Prabhupada has not gone away.
Rather, he has simply disappeared from our vision. Although we are not able
to see him any more with our mundane vision, he is very much there,
watching us from the spiritual sky. He will always be there to guide us,
provided we remain fixed up at his lotus feet. He will reward us when we
please him and he will chastise us if we make mistake.
It is due to the mistake of considering that Srila Prabhupada is gone we
are facing all these difficulties. During his last days on this planet,
Srila Prabhupada told his leading disciples many times, "Just maintain what
I have given you." At that time we thought it would be such an easy thing
to do. However, today we see how miserably we failed to fulfill that
instruction. Srila Prabhupada's greatest asset was his devotees, and that
asset we started to lose first. Now we are about to lose everything else
that His Divine Grace gave us to maintain.
I do not want to blame anyone for all the mistakes that were made, but we
must nonetheless recognize them and learn our lesson from them. Therefore,
with all sincerity, I say that we are losing everything because we had been
thinking that Srila Prabhupada is now dead and gone, and we started to
claim our shares of our inheritance. This morning, during her speech,
mother Daivisakti pointed out how natural it is to see that Srila
Prabhupada is 'the guru' of ISKCON, still today. It occurred to me how
clear a fact that is. Still, how seldom we act according to that
understanding! Or do we ever act at all with that understanding?
Nevertheless, everyday, in all the temples of ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada is
worshipped by everyone. Then why do we hesitate to tell a new comer who is
searching for a guru that Srila Prabhupada, the best guru the world has
ever seen, is still here, and one can surrender unto him and go back to
Godhead very easily? When we have such a great good fortune, why do we not
take full advantage of it? It is only when we do so that the glorious days
of ISKCON will come back again and we will witness Sri Caitanya
Mahaprabhu's sankirtan movement starting to spread in leaps and bounds all
over the world.
If we really love ISKCON and if we sincerely want the Krsna Consciousness
movement to spread all over the world in every town and village, then let
us broadcast all over the world that Srila Prabhupada is still with us and
that anyone who wants to receive his mercy can approach him and establish
his eternal relationship with him.
On this day when Srila Prabhupada has apparently left this planet, let us
take up the solemn responsibility to recognize the fact that Srila
Prabhupada is always present in his ISKCON, and that whoever wants to can
come and meet him here, still today. As his humble servants, let us help
them to establish their relationship with His Divine Grace.
Bhakti Caru Swami