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* NEW VRINDAVANA STILL CHEATING PEOPLE
*PADA Editorial.
1) PRESSURED TO ADOPT WRONG IDEAS?
2) LONG ISLAND SNAFU.
3) FROM THE GBC REPORT OF 2007
4) TRIPURARI'S SON SAGA
5) "LIVING LIPS Guru"
6) THE IRM? Dear Puranjana prabhu,
7) Review of GBC Meetings BY: ROCANA DASA
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* Tripurari's son photo:
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* NEW VRINDAVANA STILL CHEATING PEOPLE: hello sir. Is there any man with
mathura das in usa. sir he has cheated with me. he told me that he is a
pujari in temple and he will not cheat. on the basis of that i have send
him the products of $583. he is not nlb sending me the amount. i want you
to take action against him. his e amil address through which we have
communicated is bhaktipada108@yahoo.com please reply me soon thanks rajan
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PADA Editorial. The good news is that the worst is behind us and Krishna
has saved us to fight another day. Of course the battlefield is now a few
"fried out gurus" and their little force of foreign green card henchmen.
Basically, the GBC/ Sridhara/ Narayana/ Tripurari/ Gaura Govinda maharajas'
"living guru project" is on its last legs and can barely function. The only
leverage they have now is that if someone is preaching that "gurus are not
deviants -- as in the GBC's guru lineage," they might try to ban us from
Srila Prabhupada's temples -- that they have hijacked, lest we forget to
mention that poison was used in the hijack process?
Whereas Narayana Maharaja is sounding very nutty by saying we can associate
with his child molester's guru lineage, but that worship of Srila
Prabhupada is "ritvik poison." Why does NM always prefers buggery pooja to
Srila Prabhupada's pooja? Moreover NM has never explained why he became the
darling of the poisoners: hence some suspect he was knowledgeable of this
crime beforehand. The bottom line here is that NM is getting older and his
followers are already splintering on a number of issues just before his
departure, so after he is gone his program will fall apart.
Meanwhile Sridhara Maharaja's "actual successor" Tripurari swami, has
abandoned his own son and some of his followers are saying this is
unconscionable crime as well. And some folks sent us some mighty negative
comments about Tripurari's son's negligence, a few of them unprintable in a
family arena. And so all the time we get phone calls and e-mails from folks
who agree with us, but generally they do not want their names to be
mentioned for fear of some harasssment from the living goonda project. Yet
that too is gradually changing and more people are writing and putting
their names on documents since the fear factor is diminshing. In sum more
people are recognizng that the actual guru is Srila Prabhupada and not
these flea bag messiahs.
There are still a few brain washed people about, but they too are
diminishing. For example, we still find a few people telling us that it was
a good idea for their particular post-1977 guru to "work with" the other
bogus gurus for the sake of "cooperation." Yet we then ask, why should
anyone "cooperate" with the very same people who are promoting false
messiahs and they are banning, beating, molesting and killing the
Vaishnavas? And lest we forget, they poisoned Srila Prabhupada? Why was /
is it a good idea to "cooperate" with this process? Our opponents never
have a good answer. "Your honor I cooperated with the bank robbers because
cooperation is a Godly characteristic." Oh fer sure!
Moreover, if the persons who are harassing, insulting and beating the
Vaishnavas are according to SHASTRA destined to be repeatedly smashed to
pieces in the stone wheel rollers on the planet of Yamaraja, then why are
we "cooperating" with the people who are destined to go into those rollers?
So this is the result of so much brain washed propaganda: "We need to
cooperate with the people that shastra clearly says -- are going into the
stone rollers over at Yamaraja's, nevermind the karma for cooperating with
them is that -- we go there with them"? Nuttiness, but this too is
dminishing as more people say, ooops, we should never cooperate / have
cooperated! Hence the Bible says those who repent are saved but the rest
are tossed into the trash can.
And according to shastra, LEADERS who are encouraging their adherents to
follow deviants with an odious destiny, they are very culpable for the
entire imbroglio? So PADA argues: when a person acts as a leader and
promotes the violence against devotee process, he is implicated severely.
And if one preaches that we need to "cooperate" with that process, and
makes his thousands of followers cooperate with this "violence against
Vaishnavas process," then such a leader is repsonsible for an enormous
amount of the "collective" karma here. This is why Srila Prabhupada says:
the leaders are MAINLY responsible. Hence Srila Prabhupada warned that if a
GBC mis-manages he can be punished and take birth as a sudra. What to speak
then if when the entire GBC deviates, poisons their guru, creates wholesale
homosexual pedophile gurus! So the sentimentalism for these leaders is
drying up, and more people see them for what they are, criminal mis-guiders
of human society.
We also have seen a video on "youtube" where some of the GBC goondas are
harassing some of the Prabhupadanugas by ripping up photos of Srila
Prabhupada (on the cover of their literature) with some big fat guru
leaders shouting and shoving. These gurus are so fat because they spent all
our ISKCON kids food money on their opulent hog feeder lifestyles, where
they starved the children and slopped down the children's food. Yet more
people are realizing these gurus are violent exploiters because of this
revealing youtube video, which shows how these gurus behave like animals by
ripping up Srila Prabhupada's face to shreds. Too bad for them, this is all
caught on camera "the goonda guru party" sneering and snorting like a pack
of wild dogs. This reminds one of the "Jim Jones" Cult movie we watched,
where Jim Jones would rip up Bibles and stomp the pieces upon the ground,
same sort of mentality as some bogus GBC's gurus.
Needless to say, the false gurus hatred for Srila Prabhupada and his
devotees really comes through in this youtube video. This also reminds us
of when we gave a document to Prithu and he looked at the photo of Srila
Prabhupada on the cover and said, "What is this SH*T"! So they are not
happy when the pure devotees are being worshipped and their child buggers
are not! Of course, if a nice pedophile guru lover comes over, then people
like Svavasa (Emil Beca) and Nirantara (Nick D'Angelo) fall of their seats
and lick his booties. Yet now this harassing of the devotees is being
exposed on youtube.
PADA editor has been treated the same way as this video footage shows over
the years, and it is astonishing that these pedophile guru lineage lovers
are still showing no remorse. Who cares for them? Now that their behavior
is widely seen on youtube, they are exposed as the violent thugs that they
are. So this is more good progress, we said 20 years ago that what is
needed is that whenever these bogus people speak, act, write, ... someone
should make a counterpoint analysis and expose them, so they will be
checked at every step, and now this is occuring. Thanks pd
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1) PRESSURED TO ADOPT WRONG IDEAS? I AM mistaken, as Gour Govinda M was not
connected to the Gaudiya Math and was an ISKCON devotee, later guru, and at
one point open to ritvik. Though he changed his mind and/or was influenced
by Iskcon politicians or whatever, and gave up the ritvik idea (many felt
he was pressured into it). Anyway, I actually liked him and felt that of
all the gurus of the time, he was the best. Still, I stick with
Prabhupada's instructions on the guru topic unless and until someone proves
to me otherwise, such instructions also to be found in his legal documents
and not just limited to his letters. Anyhow, I have seen devotees use
Vaisnava's like him as a bridge to talk about the Gaudiya Math, even tho he
was Iskcon. That's why I reacted as I did. YS, Prtha dd
[PADA: Well yes, if someone is "pressured" into adopting the wrong
siddhanta, that means he is a weak devotee or a motivated devotee (says
shastra). Worse, if he is pressured "by politicians" then he is
compromising with known deviants who are using Krishna for their personal
"political" aims. This is the worst of all sins, again says shastra. As for
the Gaudiya Matha, yes Gaura Govinda Maharaja was following all of the
Gaudiya Matha's deviant ideas: (a) "Gurus Become Demons" (GGM actually
wrote that "position paper" for the GBC in 1988 hmmm, "Jesus is more than
likely -- actually Satan" -- with no explanation why GGM is "working with"
Satan); (b) Gurus are voted in (GGM was "voted in as the next messiah" at
the imfamous homosexual pedophile guru recoronation ceremony, then again
the Pope is voted in too); (c) In order to please Krishna -- you have to
"tolerate and work with" deviants posing as Krishna's successors (GGM told
PADA that he was "working with" the buggery lineage personally, and he
could NOT work with us Prabhupadanugas!); (d) The soul originates in
brahman and then falls here (Gaudiya Matha / Catholic church idea
variation); (e) Prabhupada/ Jesus are the dead lips, and the Pope / GGM is
the living lips. Srila Prabhupada is dead lips, not too worry, out of the
whole ten trillion planets in the Jagat, GGM has the only living lips in
the universe, he is so humble! Of course since PADA is dead lips you can
shoot him, he is already dead and so on ad infinitum. The good news is that
GGM knew all along that the ritvik idea was correct, it was not hard to
understand what the actual order of Krishna was, he just chose to deviate.
Thanks pd]
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2) LONG ISLAND SNAFU. Apparently, while Nimai Pandit was in India, some of
the bogus GBC's goondas came over to his temple to harass his Hindu guests.
One of the New Vrindavana thugs "Chandrashekar swami" went to Long Island
and "made a loud and scary scene" to intimidate the Hindus away from
attending the Long Island tmeple. The police were callled, but no one
seemed able to press charges and so the same scene happened the next week
AGAIN. The bogus GBC's plan to frighten away people from worshipping
Krishna seems to be working nicely. In sum, it seems that one of our main
troubles is that many of our warriors are weak and unable to confront the
false GBC gurus and / or their thugs. This seems to connect New Vrndavana,
Radhanatha, Chandrashekara, ISKCON bogus GBC gurus, or what?
So the bad guys "win by default" in many cases, taking advantage of the
tendency of our guys to wilt in the face of opponents. Of course once Nimai
Pandit returns, things might get back to normal. Problem is: we have too
few Nimai Pandits with the ability to confront these rascals. The good news
is that this proves PADA's theory, that if a half dozen "ritviks" had gone
to each one of the ISKCON temples and picketed outside with signs "Worship
Of Child Molester Messiah's Suck Session RIGHT HERE," after first calling
in the police and media to notify them of our picketing, we could have shut
them down -- one by one -- way back in 1980. In sum, this is a good idea,
to go to their centers and disrupt their growth. Had we done that a long
time ago, we could have avoided all kinds of horrible mistreatment of
children and devotees, and we could have straightened out the public
misconception that these bogus people are "Prabhupada's successors."
We would also argue that this protest and subsequent forced change should
have been done by "senior devotees" like Radhanatha, Danavir, Vipramukhya,
Prithu, Tripurari swami, Gaura Govinda Maharaja, Gurudas, and many similar
other "senior men." They should have worked to clean up ISKCON, either by
picketing or whatever means they had to, and forcibly dragged the child
molester guru's regime off of Srila Prabhupada's seats. Instead, they left
the whole job up to a handful of us misfits who were not in much of a
position to effect real changes anytime soon. And because they did not
support us, and worse many times they sided with the molester's pooja
project, our lives were in great peril, although the changes we wanted will
happen eventually because they are "the facts."
So now the message is pretty clear, "the ritviks" should get five or six
guys, go out and picket in front of Chandrashekara swami's temple in New
york City, and shut him down. We can easily link Chandrashekara swami to
the crimes of New Vrndavana, and even make leaflets with his photo to
circulate around his temple: "Pedophile lineage worship enforcer." In other
words, it would be easy to counter these guys, so let us hope eventually
that is done. Isn't it about time someone more vigorously opposed these
molester guru enforcers? thanks pd
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3) FROM THE GBC REPORT OF 2007
** Voting: The GBC discussed (and took a straw vote on) a proposal to lower
the percentage of votes by an area council needed to endorse a guru
candidate from three-fourths to two-thirds.
[PADA: Well there you have it, the bogus GBC gurus are "voted in" just as
we have said all along. And now it is even worse, they lowered the
standards for being "voted in" as the next messiah. Now you only need the
votes of "two thirds" of their gurus, ok often found to be "engaged in
illicit sex with men, women and children," then voting for messiahs. And if
the other third tries to veto voting in a deviant, saying that the guru
candidate is for example a child molester, they are over-ruled. Oddly, when
we confront GBC followers about this point they almost always say, the GBC
is not "voting" for guru, they are "blessing" and "empowering the guru."
Sridhara Maharaja started this guru votes process, he said that the GBC
should "add and eliminate gurus by votes," and they follow the deviant
Gaudiya Matha process. Unfortunately, you have to be just about a convicted
murderer to get "eliminated" as their messiah. Well, wait a minute, doesn't
Krishna "empower the guru"? And since their gurus are often "engaged in
illicit sex with men, women and children," what kind of "powers" do they
get? Are they are getting the "power" -- to molest disciples and children?
Sorry, Srila Prabhupada says this "voting for guru" process is bogus. At
least Sridhara Maharaja says that after his gurus are found to be molesting
children and murdering dissenters they should be eliminated, we get some
relief at some point, unless we are molested and murdered beforehand? And
exactly how is Sridhara Maharaja going to "eliminate" his bogus gurus, he
never tell us when or how he will do that?
The other oddity is that some of the bogus GBC guru folks like Gaura
Govinda Maharaja instruct us to "cry to Krishna to get a guru." Fine,
except as soon as we say we found one nice guru, named Srila Prahbupada,
GGM will say Krishna is a fool for sending you a such a guru like Srila
Prabhupada, because Srila Prabhupada does not have any "living lips" like
GGM does. Apparently, "being alive" is the only qualification for guru
these days. Problem is that GGM refuses to select someone as advanced as
Mr. Snuffles the cat as his guru, because Mr. Snuffles is way too advanced,
he doesn't "engage in illicit sex with men, women and children," nor is he
voted in as guru by same. Hence Mr. Snuffles is never voted in as their
guru, he is way too advanced for this group. Moreover Mr. Snuffles
absolutely refuses to get voted in as "best cat on the block" by a group
that re-instates pedophile worship, he simply has more integrity and
dignity than this.
This also begs the question, how does the GBC body override one of their
"gurus" when he refuses to accept their votes later on? This point is
nicely addressed by Rocana regarding "paralell authority" -- is a GBC man a
"guru" (subordinate only to Krishna) or is he merely a "voted in cleric" ok
a ritvik, and then he is subordinate to "the votes" of a Governing Body?
And why is a guru "subordinated" to those who are "engaged in illicit sex
with men, women and children"? And why have most of them, including
Satsvarupa, Jayatirtha, Bhagavan, Kirtanananda, Ramesvara, Gaura Govinda
Maharaja, almost all of them, they complained that they were fed up having
to listen to the votes of the other GBC, without explaining why they are
saying that the acharyas are subordinated to the votes of the Governing
Body -- in the first place?]
** The GBC body spent the rest of the morning discussing and voting on a
resolution concerning the situation of Dhanudhara Swami. This discussion
began yesterday in a closed plenary session, but today the GBC deputies
were invited to take part. Ravindra Swarupa Prabhu chaired this session,
because he was on the subcommittee working on this resolution, as were
Hridayananda Maharaja, Sivarama Swami, Radhanatha Swami, Badrinarayana
Prabhu, Anuttama Prabhu, and Tamohara Prabhu. The discussion continued a
long time, and the GBC dealt decisively with this issue.
The GBC endeavored to balance the aspects of the case and took into account
the concerns of all involved parties. The GBC wants to build a consensus.
The GBC exercised restraint by not taking sides and by stressing the
essential principles to uphold. The resolution clarified ISKCON's standards
of leadership as they affect both society and individuals, took some
additional initiative to promote reconciliation, and apologized for its
shortcomings. The resolution will be published in due course.
[PADA: Right, what is the bogus GBC's "highest standard" for being the next
Vishnupada messiah, a diksha guru? Well you might need to be a child beater
who causes children to spontaneously commit suicide as soon as they see the
bogus GBC's "guru's" sinful face, then you are qualified to be the next
messiah. Of course they are very strict, those of us who are not child
beaters, those of us who do not create spontaneous child suicides, we are
not qualified to -- even be in the temples. The most amazing thing is that
so many of the leaders are going along with this child beater messiah
program even in the year 2007, even after knowing this causes ex-children
to shun ISKCON if not commit suicide: "We can only voted for suicide pada,
he is the only one who reached our messiah standards."
And then again we have 1996 where the guru vote was started in earnest,
that year they voted in Ravindra Swarupa, Gaura Govinda Maharaja, Prithu,
Danavir et al. -- those who compromised with the worship of Andy Warhol
pada, and/or Bhavananda's homosexual pedophile "guru" regime. They were
"voted in" as the next messiahs because they tossed ISKCON's children into
a trash dumpster. And that is their main qualification for guru these days.
So the standard is, the more you are a rascal or compromised with rascals,
the more you are "a resident of Vaikuntha"? Nope!
You can paint lipstick on a pig, but it just never becomes beautiful.
Sorry! And now it turns out that Tripurari swami is another criminal child
neglector. So the bogus GBC gurus and people like Narayana Maharaja fall
off their chair and lick his booties, "Oh a nice criminal child neglector,
our hero"! PADA witnessed that when Tripurari came to Los Angeles, people
like Govinda Datta and all the temple goondas fell at the feet of
Tripurari. "Here is a nice guy whose businesses sold million of T-shirts
and collected millions of dollars to help drug addicts, but he could not
spend anything to help his own son with the illicit millions." They love
these child abusive guys, no one else. Thanks pd]
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4) TRIPURARI'S SON SAGA
His Royal Holiness, Saint Sriman His Divine Grace Bhaktivedanta Tripurari
Swami (Thomas Beaudry) first of all abandoned his wife and child, and she
was so depressed she died of heroin. Now her son is having troubles with
drugs and crime, and Tripurari will not help his own son Nama Bhakti
Beaudry. He is in the Coalinga California prison. Oddly, his photo was on
the front page of the Monday edition of the San Francisco Chronicle in an
article about "prison overcrowding." Why is it that the self advertised
"guru of the gays" has no time to help his own son? A Christian group of
"mothers for prisoners" are adopting prisoners, and they adopted Nama
Bhakti Beaudry, they called me and asked if I can get the father, His Royal
Highess Pada, to help his son, nope, these crank pot gurus cannot help
anyone. This poor son of Tripurari is in Coalinga jail, is anyone near
there who can visit him? Here are a few other posts ---
* It is surprising you have not yet told people that Tripurari was once
married and that he abaondoned his wife and child. He took sannyasa and
then totally neglected his wife (Addie Beaudry) and son (Bhakti). She ended
up getting so depressed from Tripurari's mistreatment she took a herion
overdose and died. Then his son wandered off with Grateful Dead followers
and we don't know where he is. Tripurari was selling drugs in the 1960s and
he was busted and arrested in Mexico where he went to jail.
He has always been a crooked man, and a negligent parent, and he has
abandoned his wife and kid. Why are you being so nice to this arrogant
child neglecting fool? Why are people who mistreat women and children
worshipped by your group? Thanks Dr. Phil
* Thanks Madhumangala for calling the San Francisco newspaper "liars who
need to take prozac" because you and Tripurari cannot acknowledge the son
is his. Funny thing is that the Christian ladies who are helping
Tripurari's neglected son said this would happen, they said that as soon as
a child neglector / abuser is exposed, he usually starts: harassing,
denying, calling people names, saying everyone is a liar, he might even get
violent or sub-violent as you are, in other words, his real child
harrassing /rexploiting nature comes out. These ladies knew how you would
speak twenty years ago, they have seen you guys all day long.
So we already have expert psychology help here, these ladies deal with
child abuse and neglect all the time, and they knew beforehand how you
would react. They know your psychology already. I told them that Tripurari
now says that the San Francisco Chronicle is "a liar" and that the photo on
the cover is not his son, and he is denying he even has a son. He is saying
that the news papers are "liars who need prozac." They said, we already
know so many child abusers who behave exactly like Tripurari and
Madhumangala, they simply deny their implication. So they are re-abusing
their victims.
Sorry, the Chronicle news is not a liar and every devotee here knows that,
and if this is not the son, let us see if Tripurari sues them for
implicating him in neglect? He won't because he is the liar, the papers are
the truth, merely confirmed what we have said all along. By the way the
Tripurari web pages of my web site, Harekrsna.org, get 50 hits a week,
people want to know the real story about your bogus gurus. thanks pd
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5) "LIVING LIPS Guru" Argument. PADA still does not get it? The bogus GBC/
Sridhara/ Narayana/ Gaura Govinda/ Tripurari maharaja sector, even
recently, says that we cannot accept Srila Prabhupada as our diksha guru
because he is not "living lips." Apparently, only their homosexual and
pedophile guru lineage members have "living lips," and we really do not
want to know where those lips have been! "As as matter of fact, I am so
humble, my lips are the only LIVING lips in the universe. Everyone else's
lips, including Srila Prabhupada's, are dead lips, jeepers I am such a
humble pie guy." PADA really cannot imagine anyone else "glorifying" their
guru as "Mr. Dead Lips," except the bogus GBC/ Sridhara/ Narayana/
Tripurari/ GGM/ et al. process.
Srila Prabhupada is dead lips? And of course preaching on behalf of Srila
Prabhupada is another dead lips idea, the "bogus ritviks." So the pure
devotee is dead lips, preaching on behalf of the pure devotees is even
worse dead lips, i.e. all of the followers of Srila Prabhupada are "dead
lips." Only Tripurari swami has "living lips," everyone else in the
universe has dead lips? Umm, no small amount of arrogance here pilgrims. "I
am living, everyone else is dead." Sounds just a little bit ego-maniac. The
thing that amazes us is that there are still adherents of this bogus idea.
Worse, someone told PADA that their guru "always glorifies Srila
Prabhupada," by saying that Srila Prabhupada is Mr. dead lips? How is that
glorifying the guru? Oh, I forgot, these guys found some nice homosexual
pedophiles and they are also their co-living lips sector. Only us, and our
homosexual pedophile pals, we are the living lips, not Srila Prabhupada or
his followers. So this is amazing, "I would like to offer my respectful
obeisances to, the dead lips." Bascially, "I am the new living lips, Srila
Prabhupada is dead lips, and all of his followers who want to preach on his
behalf are dead lips." Hmm, try that out in a Chistain Church, "Jesus is
Mr. Dead Lips, and I am the living lips." You'll get a fat lips, hey, hey,
hey. Thanks pd
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6) THE IRM?
Dear Puranjana prabhu,
please accept my humble obeisances - all glories to Srila Prabhupada!
What's actually going on at IRM? Is it just another private org who
ambitiously tries to collect devotees who were kicked out of ISKCON. As we
know, by now more devotees are kicked out of than inside of ISKCON, surely
there are quite some people who would rather join IRM than stay on their
own forever because ISKCON will never surely never change towards accepting
Prabhupadanugas. On one hand IRM publishes facts about the deviant guru
business which PADA would surely also sign but which are never commented by
PADA, on the other hand, IRM seems to be controlled by hidden power
mongers. Why do the try to keep Krishnakant like the founder acarya of a
new movement? What happened in Bangalore, looks like they reject both
ISKCON and IRM? Could it be that IRM is controlled by the same chosen
people who own ISKCON? By now it is proven that ISKCON is being changed
into a private org with private owners who are not even devotees and who
control the GBC by a team of LA lawyers who determine what decisions are
being made. The only thing what makes IRM run is that they seem to have a
sponsor who pays for the global distribution of BACK TO PRABHUPADA. In
other words, without cash injection IRM couldnt manage anything. Wouldnt
the dissolution of IRM not also weaken PADA in that sense that many
devotees would just lose faith in a Vaishnava society with only Prabhupada
in the center? Hare Krishna Kancalocana dasa (ACBSP)
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7) Review of GBC Meetings BY: ROCANA DASA
Feb 20, CANADA — Day Two Reports.
In yesterday's segment of Obeisances to Dandavats, we began to offer
comments on Tattvavit dasa's eleven-part report on the daily GBC meetings
recently taking place in Mayapur. Today, we begin with a look at his Day
Two report. The Day Two report includes a list of eight proposals, but
these do not appear to have captured the group's attention. Instead, the
main agenda over the next few days was Gopal Bhatta's program of strategic
planning. He sat as Chair of the GBC meetings over the course of his
presentation. Gopal Bhatta's agenda took up a significant portion of the
overall time the GBC had available for its worldwide meetings. This new
strategic planning approach is being led by the seemingly successful
businessmen, Gopal Bhatta and Ambarish prabhu, who are described as being
the ones who "help the GBC members open their hearts and focus on issues."
So the vaisyas are now inspiring the so-called brahmans.
In the first part of his report, Gopal Bhatta concluded that the GBC are
failures at strategic thinking. He points to the two successful past
programs that the GBC were involved in - the Srila Prabhupada Centennial
and a Kshetra Committee - noting that even these programs were not
maintained, which in itself means there was not a brahminical approach
being employed. As he said, they "ran out of steam".
[PADA: Rather amazing, every year the GBC makes about fifty seven
"committees," such as: -- The support of abused and neglected women in
ISKCON committee; The support of molested children ad hoc group, supervised
by the founder fathers of buggery pooja; The fund for securing a holy
place, divine burials for buggery pooja founders; The fund to make a health
clinic for elderly devotees, which buys a bucket of prozac for the GBC's
meetings; The committee to make a litigation system for gripes against
their gurus, which buys bamboos sticks to beat anyone who complains; The
research committee to determine what is an actual guru's behavior, which is
of course "illicit sex with men, women and children" -- who knew!; The
committee to investigate various guru's embezzling or illicit affairs,
supervised by embezzler-pada; How to nullify the Narayana Maharaja group,
after saying that Narayana Maharaja is Radharani's rasika assistant for 20
years, because he says "there is nothing wrong" with buggery pooja in his
Guru Tattva book; How to nullify the Prabhupada worship group, we would not
want anyone to worship pure devotees; ad infinitum.
Yet before any of these endless lists of "committees" ever seems to take
the first step to get their first process under motion, six months later
the same people are re-assigned to a second, third, fourth, fifth, etc.
"newer" committee, and so very little ever gets done except expensive
meetings to make more useless committees. Some of these gurus are even
sitting on the list of ten different committees at once, and yet they are
simultaneously almost unable to manage a few temples in their "guru zones."
Apparently, no one ever made a committee to investigate "why the guru has a
zone" either?]
** Gopal Bhatta also noted that one of the big goals of the Centennial was
to make the ISKCON body healthy, and that's basically been a failure. He
even goes so far as to tell us the reasons -- the key players got
sidetracked. What has really caused the failure, of course, is the fact
that the gurus don't maintain their spiritual standards. In other words,
they keep falling down, and therefore faith in the leadership is eroding. A
great deal of energy has to be dispensed to deal with the resulting crisis
each time a guru falls. The GBC allude primarily to Harikesa, who for many
years was considered to be the most important GBC, guru and BBT
personality. His fall created tremendous havoc for Srila Prabhupada's
mission.
[PADA: Right, every time "a guru" leaves he may take several thousands of
his followers with him. Then suddenly thousands of ISKCON's servants who
were maintaining the mission are -- out of ISKCON. This means the guru's
"zone" has a tremendous financial and manpower loss. The poor followers
sometimes bloop altogether or they form a new cult based on their ex-guru,
or they join Narayana Maharaja etc., and in sum they leave ISKCON behind.
Even an ordinary material corporation could not manage if every six months
all the factory workers at one plant quit, then six months later another
factory full of workers quit and left the building vacant, the company
would go bankrupt if this kept occuring regularly as it does in ISKCON.]
** Gopal Bhatta goes on to emphasize his solution, which is all about
management. Such management requires that the GBC Executive Committee meet
more regularly, have a budget, and serve for three consecutive years. As I
stated earlier, Gopal Bhatta discovered that most devotees are unconcerned
about what goes on at the GBC level, but are mainly concerned about what
goes on at the local level. And on a local level, it's completely up to the
local GBC to decide what he brings back from these meetings, what he and
adopts and emphasizes, and what he chooses to ignore. In our local case,
our primary GBC didn't even go to the meetings. In fact, he doesn't even
come to the temple unless he absolutely has to even though he's both the
GBC and the Temple President, partly because he lives many hours away. But
regardless of how displeased the local congregants are about this
situation, the GBC do absolutely nothing to correct this huge deviation
from Srila Prabhupada's strategic plan.
[PADA: Right. The original idea of the GBC is to oversee local managing.
Yet this has been replaced with weak local managers (bogus guru's "yes
men"), mostly brand new bhakta types who are inexperienced. Then there are
the far flung guru / managers who might visit the temple every year or so,
but they have little idea of the local issues. This is the problem with
their "living guidance" concept, there is almost no one home to manage and
give the local guidance. Worse, many temples have simply handed off the
whole place to some Hindus, while "the guru" just flies in once a month to
clean out the cash collection box. For example, some of the devotee here
complained that many of Bhakti Svarupa Damodar's followers were smoking pot
etc., but he never had any idea what his followers were doing because he
only visited here once a year, if that. There is no "living guidance."]
** Gopal Bhatta, on the other hand, is complaining that the GBC are too
absorbed in local and regional issues, and/or have health problems and
don't do their jobs, or are considered "too brahminically minded" to do the
required work. I suppose he's referring to Hridayananda and Ravindra
Svarupa. Gopal Bhatta's suggestion is that they start a whole new tier of
GBCs, which he calls the "international only" managers. Of course, he wants
to transform the Executive Committee into such a body of "international
onlies". Any reader who has any idea of what goes on throughout the world
in ISKCON can easily see that those who want to take a position as
"executives" on this Executive Committee are the ones who don't have much
going on in their local areas, or who have so many problems they just want
an excuse not to have to deal with them because they're engaged in "more
important issues".
Naturally, the Executive Committee will need more offices and permanent
staff, so Radhanatha Swami stepped forward to offer such facility for them
at his Chowpatty temple. While on the surface this seems a gracious
gesture, Radhanatha's offer actually exemplifies the Zonal Acarya
mentality. He refuses to personally follow the GBC resolutions and insists
that he be the only initiating guru. For all these years his temple has not
been incorporated as an ISKCON temple. Now he wants to become further
entwined with the seat of GBC power. We should also consider the fact that
if they share space at Chowpatty, the Executive Committee members will be
coming into very close and regular association with Radhanath and his
managers, and this will inevitably influence their way of administrating.
Considering the fact that Radhanatha Swami operates as a Zonal Acarya and
doesn't himself comply with the GBC's mandates, we can assume that the GBC
members will have an even more difficult time trying to enforce their own
mandates if they're keeping this company.
[PADA: Hmmm, and Radhanatha and Chandrashekara are pals, did Radhanatha
order people to go and harass the Long Island temple?]
** Gopal Bhatta next points out a very serious problem that ISKCON is now
having to face as their members become ill, while others have already
departed. That is, they haven't enlisted or trained anyone from the next
generation to take their place. In the candid photographs taken at the
meetings, I see many of my previous friends and associates. I can only
wonder why it is that after all these years, they're still holding on to
these GBC positions. For what were ostensibly spiritual reasons, they have
taken positions like sannyasa and guru, in addition to accepting the
highest institutional position of GBC.
[PADA: The next generation, the children of ISKCON, are being permanently
alientated because the bogus GBC insists on keeping child beaters like
Dhanurdara in the post of their messiah gurus.]
** If one is really making spiritual advancement, we have to wonder why
they aren't doing as Srila Prabhupada did, trying to remove themselves as
quickly as possible from administrative duties so they can focus strictly
on their own personal spiritual advancement and the advancement of their
disciples and followers. You would assume they'd be disinclined to get
embroiled on this kind of management level. In fact, you'd assume the
spiritual demands on them would be such that they'd want to find someone to
replace them. But as admitted here and as evident in the photos, they
haven't groomed or trained anyone to replace them, even though they're
admittedly failures at what they've been doing all these years. So if
you've taken on the renounced order, and you have a serious spiritual
responsibility for many disciples, and you're a managerial failure, and/or
too sick, or too brahminically minded, or whatever excuse you may have for
not executing your GBC duties, then why not resign and allow someone else
to take over your duties?
[PADA: Correct, photos of "leaders in attendance" is starting to look like
a crew of dead pirates that floated up from the Carribbean.]
** There's no shortage of persons who would be willing to accept such
responsibility. It's hard to imagine them thinking that regardless of the
fact that they're failing, if somebody else replaced them they'd do an even
worse job. It seems that they just want to hold on to the power, and
they're not looking at the results, even though Srila Prabhupada said
"judge by the results". Keep in mind that in modern ISKCON, it's harder to
become a GBC member than it is to take sannyasa or be recognized as a diksa
guru. Those who are in power and have that title are obviously so attached
that they won't give it up, regardless of how sick they are, or how much of
a failure they are.
There's a degree of honesty in the statement by Gopal Bhatta, pointing out
that younger devotees are not enthusiastic to accept this responsibility.
But how many members of that GBC body are younger devotees that could
consider peers? And how can we expect the younger generation to be
enthusiastic for a job like GBC member, when the position is weighted down
by a history of maha-problems, mired in current problems, has a proven
record of corruption, and apparently has little to recommend it as being a
positive or fulfilling role?
Later on in the meetings, it was even suggested that the sannyasa ministry
make available to the Executive Committee its sannyasa candidates for a
certain part of the year. In other words, to be a sannyasi you would have
to serve the Executive Committee. This tells us that they're now training
sannyasis how to become administrators and bureaucrats. According to the
philosophy, this is the antithesis of what it means to be in the mood of a
sannyasi.
Committee Reports
The heads of the committees that were established in Italy made their
presentations. One committee, headed by the lawyer Sesa dasa, was deputed
to create an ISKCON constitution. Sesa dasa reports that he's finding it
virtually impossible because of unstated reasons, but he does admit that
Srila Prabhupada wanted there to be a constitution. Regardless, in three
separate attempts, going back to the early 1990's, he hasn't been able to
come up with something that he feels he can get a universal or majority
by-in on. We're left wondering what the essence of the problem is that
prevents them from drafting a constitution. Of course, we can easily guess
that it's because of the newly coined "parallel structure" problem.
[PADA: Right, a constitution would regulate the behavior of leaders, they
do not want that, they want renegade gurus.]
** I've already mentioned Ravindra Svarupa's presentation, or lack of it,
on Srila Prabhupada's position. It appears that there's little or no
consensus on that level either, other than the conclusion that Srila
Prabhupada is the "soul of ISKCON". I've also mentioned he feels Sivarama
Swami's "parallel structures" problem has to be resolved before there is a
constitution. Annutama prabhu offered the typical platitude, that we all
have to "cooperate on the spiritual level and focus on the pleasure of
Srila Prabhupada".
At the conclusion of Gopal Bhatta's strategic planning summary, control of
the meeting was returned to the Chairman. Gopal Bhatta apparently didn't
stay for the rest of the meeting. He just thanked them for their attention
and approval and jumped on a plane, back to his own business. It's
fascinating, if not disturbing, that Gopal Bhatta isn't even a member of
the GBC, yet he chaired the meeting and consumed a large portion of the
members' time.
This takes us up to day four of the meetings, which will be dealt with in a
subsequent article. I invite any of the readers who feel inclined to study
these meeting reports to give us their own feedback. Of course, we've had
the benefit of only one "official" reporter, although in a free society
there would be a whole cadre of reporters representing all sorts of
distinct members of the society. However, Tattvavit dasa is the only person
we can rely on to give us the kind of information we're looking for. And of
course, he reported just a fraction of what was actually discussed. This
leaves us with many questions and concerns, and the absence of detailed
information will only encourage speculation amongst the membership.
So, the mood of secrecy still prevails in the GBC. We will have to wait
weeks or months until the official Minutes and Resolutions are presented.
But of course, these won't give us much detail about the discussions, either.
[PADA: Where is the committee to figure out why all the nine hundred and
sixty seven previous committees never finished anything? Thanks pd]